| US allies sold short on new fighters |
![]() Dr Dennis Jensen, MP: "Production of the Raptor must continue"
08:04 GMT, February 18, 2009 The US refusal to sell the F-22 Raptor to its main allies is a matter of grave concern to many around the world and is an issue exacerbated by the possible termination of the Raptor project before it even has delivered the number of aircraft demanded by the American military itself. |
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If the F-35 could actually sing and dance perhaps some of the $12-$16 billion AUD will have been worth Australian taxpayer's money, as a boost in spending on arts and culture. Failing that, can it be used to drop water on bushfires in Australia and Indonesia? Will it help in humanitarian efforts with our near neighbours in the Asia-Pacific by supporting other sections of our defence forces? Will it run on biofuel?
If this is being purchased to keep the US-A Alliance in good shape, then why not just give the US Govt the billions outright - and perhaps the money will be used to prevent some mortgage foreclosures or pay for health care rather than lining the pockets of Lockheed-Martin shareholders.
Has anyone travelled? The Asia-Pacific Region and its people cannot afford an arms race stimulated by an arrogant nation.
Updated: 2009-02-19 13:20:48 |
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Depends what you mean by "hobbled export model"... There was the start of a plan to get Australia a full-up A model USAF spec F-22.
Until the hype of the Just So Farcial money-graft-gravy-train promise of industry participation was presented.
http://wikileaks.org/leak/f22-australia.pdf
With the economic meltdown, the industry participation will be a big loss-leader.
While on the topic of making a jet export friendly, about three quarters of a billion dollars has been shoveled into the F-35 as part of Delta-SDD to make different "configurations" of the F-35.
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,156400,00.html
Australia has always been there for the U.S. yet pushing the blue sky marketed mediocrity known as the Buick of Stealth is the thanks for the effort.
Created: 2009-02-19 11:02:18 |
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1. Under what tactical scenario will Britain, Australia, Japan or Israel ever have to contend with an F-22 Raptor equipped force?
2. Those opposed to the acquisition of the F-35 Lighting II by Australia, of which Dr Jensen is a card-carrying member, have a percuniary motivation behind their arguments.
Anything written about the "strategic consequences" of an F-35 acquisition or otherwise is written by them with this motivation first and foremost in mind.
One might also ponder the situation of Dr Jensen, being a Parliamentary member of the Australian Liberal Party, yet holding a view on this debate that is diametrically opposed to his own Political Party's defence stance.
A curious situation...
Created: 2009-02-19 05:06:12 |
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To be fair to the US the countries who have the Eurofighter would not buy the F22 anyway as they can't afford it and don't need it anyway.
Created: 2009-02-18 16:41:09 |
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Interesting article. One small error to start with, however, Britain is not interested in the F-22 Raptor and has been part of the F-35 programme for a very long time, largely driven by the need to buy a replacement for the Harrier, primarily for aircraft carrier use. I wouldn't class the US's refusal to sell the F-22 Raptor to its "main" allies as a matter of grave concern as painted by Dr Dennis Jensen. The only countries that seem to have expressed an interest in it have been Australia, Israel (who also plans to buy the F-35) and Japan.
While it is understandable that such an important procurement decision is likely to fuel much debate within Australia, it seems that many of the arguments are largely based on looking at the country's own defence requirements and looking to any perceived threats that the US might share, while ignoring the overall requirements of the US or the majority of the rest of its allies who are procuring the F-35. By desperately trying to turn the US military much more in favour of the F-22, the hope is that production will be extended and, ultimately, an export version will be made available that Australia will be able to buy. And in the unlikely event that happened, it would also probably be a "hobbled export model" to meet US export regulations that would be developed at extra cost to the US. Any extension to the F-22 production line is therefore likely to be for the USAF, not for any other service or for any other country.
Many of these arguments appear to be driven by Australia's single fighter buy approach. Australia must have an an all-singing, all-dancing fighter that will be vastly superior to everything else in air-to-air combat possessed by its regional neighbours and an equal to the F-22 in every aspect. If not, it must have the F-22. Many other states planning to buy the F-35 do not share this approach. They are looking to eventually operate a mix of F-35s, F-22s (in the US's case), vastly upgraded fourth generation fighter types and new stealthy UCAVs. The biggest issue for many of those countries looking to order the F-35 outside Australia is now eventual cost and not primarily focussing on its air-to-air capabilities or a desire to have it as stealthy as the F-22. That is why there has been much public debate in many countries like Norway and the Netherlands, who share similarities with Australia by having a single fighter buy approach, and even the UK about their plans to buy the F-35, especially at this time when the economic climate is likely to put further pressure on defence spending. Besides, a "hobbled export model" of the F-22 would probably not come in very much cheaper either. The F-35 is not being "foisted" onto its allies as Jensen puts it. Countries are not reluctantly handing over money to be involved in the F-35 programme while really wishing that they could have the vastly superior Raptor instead. If the F-35 didn't exist or was cancelled with the money diverted to the F-22, many states would probably go and buy the Euro-canards (Eurofighter, Rafale and Gripen) or similar upgraded legacy fighters instead that would probably leave the US with very few countries to sell an all-singing, all-dancing F-22 export version to.
Updated: 2009-02-18 16:09:19 |
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